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How The War In Iraq Affected Engineers



Various  |   ED Online ID #5188  |   June 9, 2003

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Dear Editor:
"War is hell for our troops..." At Fort Benning, Georgia, there was a time when young infantry officers were shown how to use anti-tank and anti-personnel mines as defensive weapons. After the mines were deployed, a detailed map had to be drawn showing where each and every mine was placed so that when they were no longer needed, they could be located, disarmed, policed-up, and put away. If you failed to document a mine field, you could "get your ass in a sling" and be sent to the rear with 11 copies of the order. Yet a five-year-old boy in Iraq has lost both of his eyes because he found a "bomblet" in his own backyard. Of course, it exploded when he moved it. That's what it was designed to do.

Such a scenario certainly makes one proud to be a designer of high-tech weapons. If only we had developed commensurate high-tech brains that would have known how to deploy high-tech weapons, perhaps we might have avoided the abyss into which we now descend. Bad enough that we attack people who have done us no harm. Maiming their children is a crime that Rhadamanthys [mortal son of Europa and Zeus, he was praised for his piety, justice, and wisdom and became one of three judges of the underworld after his death] is unlikely to ignore.

So how do we create a safer world? Stop making high-tech weapons to be turned over to dingbats.

Jack Dennon
Micromethods
jdennon@seasurf.com

LOW REGARD BY EUROPEANS

Dear Editor:
I read "The War With Iraq Affects Each Of Us Differently, Depending On Our Job" [April 28th, p. 19] and can relate my experience to you.

Currently, I work for a company trying to go global and go public at the same time. From my personal experience with our European counterparts, the working relationships between our divisions have become very strained. These Europeans now view our American engineers as inferior. Communications between the divisions has been going south ever since. Collaboration is almost nonexistent, making an impact on productivity on both sides of the ocean. Internal power struggles have become more pronounced and obvious to all employees, not just the engineers.

I'm not sure what all of this has to do with the war in Iraq. However, the timeliness of all this and the attitude would suggest there is some influence due to the war. I'm not sure if the Europeans' opinions of us American engineers is influenced by their view of America's actions against Iraq. One can only guess that there is some impact.

The interesting thing I have observed is that this problem seems to be more pronounced in Europe and not in other areas of the world where my company operates. In Asia, I have felt that the workers and engineers are more focused on the business at hand and don't let their political views affect their productivity and business relations. They are less distracted. I don't mean to sound biased, but I have also observed this same undistracted focus in the U.S. with our other facilities in the U.S. This seems to be true with India as well. Our company does not have any facilities in the Middle East for obvious reasons.

Robert Sadler
Design Engineer
AMI Semiconductor
rsadler@amis.com

THE DOWNSIDE OF WAR

Dear Editor:
I now work behind several 8-foot fences and have my car inspected when I arrive on the job. Noncitizens must endure a five-year background check, are required to renew their badge every three months, and have to be escorted wherever they go.

War changes the source of money. The labeled description of the work now tends to address terrorist possibilities. And there is a decrease in the resources for travel and an increase in the work intensity.

Bill Larsen
blarsen@mail.arc.nasa.gov




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    Reader Comments

    Regarding Sept 11, 2001, the unanswered question is, who did it? What we know is just what we have been told. There has never been any connection whatsoever established between the people of Iraq and the Sept 11 attack on America. We are making war on a people on the basis of a lie. Sept 11 was simply an excuse for people in the Bush admnistration who already had plans to invade Iraq. Saddam is gone, yet the fighting continues; that ought to tell us something. BTW, evidently I am not the only one who has encountered dingbats in command. Drop on over to www.antiwar.com today (July 4) and learn what another ex-infantryman, Stan Goff, has to tell you about reality.

    Jack Dennon -July 04, 2003

    This note is in response to Jack Dennon’s letter to the editor. I felt that it was nonsense. He stated that he designs “high-tech” weapons such as the bomblet. A bomblet is a small bomb dropped in a cluster to cover an area. He blames the maiming of a 5-year-old child in Iraq that detonated a bomblet in his backyard to the solders that dropped the cluster bomb.

    The real problem appears to be with the design. Why didn’t the bomblet explode before or when it hit the ground like it is supposed to? Perhaps he should spend his time studying how to improve reliability instead of Greek mythology.

    Who’s at fault: the person that made the lousy weapon, or the one that used it and expected it to work?

    Bryan Deguire P.E. The dingbat taxpayer that paid for it.

    Bryan Deguire -June 23, 2003

    Mr. Dennon,

    I believe you made a number of mistakes in your Letter To The Editor. Your opening paragraph gives the clear impression that the Infantry School at Fort Benning, Georgia (and by implication, Army doctrine as a whole) no longer teaches soldiers and officers to mark the mines we lay. This is entirely false. We still have to mark exactly where we put every single mine.

    Later in the article you give the example of the boy who lost his sight because he touched a "bomblet". There are many types of "bomblets" used by the U.S. military. A few are dropped by the Air Force, but the vast majority in Iraq are almost certainly leftover submunitions from dual purpose improved conventional munition (DPICM) artillery shells. Each shell contains 88 of these bomblets (some artillery rockets contain over 600). They are NOT designed to explode when moved as you assert*. They are designed to explode on impact with the ground or a vehicle. The fact that the bomblet is lying unexploded on the ground is because 1% to 5% of these bomblets do not explode on impact as designed. I have always thought it was a shoddy design. They should all explode on impact.

    Also, are you certain it was a submunition left over from a U.S. attack and not an Iraqi shell or an Iranian shell leftover from the Iran/Iraq war? Almost, every country in the world with any artillery, use similar shells that release "bomblets".

    So please, don't insult the military leadership as "dingbats" and the only piece of evidence you offer is a distortion of a tragedy that occurs because of a design flaw. In my opinion we need more engineers to design weapons because the military has some very old, technologically obsolete weapons that cause unnecessary suffering for noncombatants.

    It is completely distasteful for a professional engineer to insult other professionals (i.e. military officers) without some evidence other than distortions based on inadequate research.

    Professionally,

    1st Lieutenant Justin Richard Clack Field Artillery United States Army

    *There is no "bomblet" in the U.S. arsenal, to my knowledge, that is designed to hit the ground, lie there and explode when touched. What you are describing is a "mine" not a "bomblet".

    Justin Clack -June 18, 2003
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